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rmgebhardt
10-19-2005, 03:02 PM
It’s not often that I get to go to shows any more since I'm living more than 100 miles away from the Twin Cities in Minnesota, but when I get the chance I try to do whatever I can to make it. Last week I was emailed by Atlantic Records Publicity department letting me know that Taproot would be in town with Chevelle and that they’d love for me to cover the show and/or interview the band. I jumped at the chance.

Once we had things figured out, I found I wouldn’t be able to make it into town in time for the scheduled interview, so I emailed Atlantic letting them know that, but also letting them know I would be doing a full show review as well as getting some shots to add to the photography section here on Decoy.

I tried to make it in time for the interview, but was a little late. Because of this, I didn’t get to interview the band but I did, however, get to interview the bouncer at the door who was in charge of tickets.

Rick: Hi, I’m Rick Gebhardt and I was confirmed for 2 tickets to the show, one of them being a photo pass.

Bouncer: Can I see your ID?

Rick: Sure, here you go.

Bouncer: You said you were with Taproot?

Rick: Yep, here is the confirmation email. As you can see it is directly from Atlantic Records PR contact. [I point to the PR contact’s name, which I will withold since I'm a semi-nice guy.]

Bouncer: Ok… well it doesn’t look like you’re on the Taproot list. Let me check the Chevelle list… nope, not on there either. Maybe you got put on the radio winner guest list… huh. Not on there either. Let me look through the rest of these lists… nope, doesn’t appear that you’re on there anywhere.

Rick: Well, I have the confirmation email right here…

Bouncer: Sorry, but your contact definitely didn’t get you signed up anywhere. You sure they actually got you on the list.

Rick: It sure seems like it from the email that is right here in front of us that says “You’ve been confirmed for the show.”

Bouncer: I can’t do anything for you. They obviously dropped the ball. I can’t let you in.

Rick: Well, that’s unbelievably awesome. Thanks.

I know it may not have been quite as interesting as an interview with Taproot, but it was the best I could do thanks to Atlantic and their awesome job at not following through. Since the interview was a little weak, I thought I would also do a show review since I was looking forward to seeing both Taproot and Chevelle and wanted to tell you all about the show!

By the time Jared and I (I did tell you that Jared was with me, didn't I?) had finished our interview with the bouncer it was getting close to the time that Taproot would be going in to sound check. To avoid the crowds inside the venue (and because we weren’t allowed in) we decided to walk over to a local bar, have a beer, and imagine what it was like inside the club as Taproot was playing.

First, Taproot would collectively somersault out onto the stage wearing hot pink stretch pants, white t-shirts, and multicolored bandanas (to hide their newly grown mullets, of course). After their initial antics, they ran to their instruments, kissed them for good luck, and ripped into something from [i]Gift. As the opening riffs started they all ran in circles around the stage trying to confuse the crowd as to who was actually who. They’re a bunch of crazy tricksters like that, having all at one time performed in the circus. And remember, they’re doing this all in sync, which is pretty damn amazing.

After playing some of their old stuff, each member gave their instrument to another band member and continued the set. It totally added such a unique vibe to the show. Talk about multi-faceted musicians! I’ve never seen a lead singer drum so hard.

Now just as it came time to switch instruments again, from the bass drum a small explosion set off the releasing of the gerbils! Taproot believes quite strongly in the concept of “Animal / Manimal Musical Synergy”, in which a band releases their favorite animal onstage while emulating the actions of said animal. I tell you what, I was more than just amazed to see a group of gerbils contributing gang vocals to chorus of “Calling”. That’s what I call thinking outside of the box! Who would have ever expected it?

Once all of the gerbils had crowd surfed their way to the back of the club, it was time for the acoustic / interpretive dance section of the show. During this portion of the show a campfire was started in the middle of the stage, two members of the band sung Kumbaya, and the other two expressed their innermost emotions by dancing in circles around the fire. Oh, as an aside, you should make sure to attend multiple shows because for each stop different members will dance, and I know you want to see them all shake their hot pink tights covered booties.

As their set was coming to a close the fire was put out, the instruments were put away, and the band drew together in the middle of the stage (right where the fire used to be… maybe to illustrate some type of avant garde symbolism). They then exchanged hugs, removed their bandanas, and did something I never thought I’d see at a rock concert — with the help of three roadies they formed a human pyramid, three humans high. It was quite the way to end the show.

After Taproot Chevelle came onstage. They had quite the act to follow. Since I’d already seen Chevelle, I knew what to expect — hard rock, great stage presence, and a thick sound. They’re a great live band. Maybe not as wacky as Taproot, but still worth checking out.

Well… at least that’s how I imagined the show would be if Jared and I would have actually been on the guest list like Atlantic’s PR department said we were, but since we couldn’t get into the venue, your guess is as good as mine as to what Taproot was like.

Finally, to top of this interview / review extravaganza, I’m going to go for the hat trick by also contributing some photography! I only got one picture, but I think it’s really fitting. I dedicate it to Atlantic’s PR department, who was gracious enough to promise me admission to a show that I drove over 200 miles round trip to attend… but never got into:

http://static.flickr.com/24/54132900_5072958cb5.jpg

jared
10-19-2005, 03:07 PM
excellent

JohnnyL
10-19-2005, 03:25 PM
I'm sorry to hear about that, but thats a great article. I better not get screwed on friday. I'm supposed to be seeing Nightmare of You.

suburbanvoodoo
10-19-2005, 03:33 PM
well written piece, better than any meatheaded interview with taproot, i'm sure. but this is how majors are. 5 times out of 10, they will forget to put you on the guestlist...unless you write for rolling stone

Amazingthemike
10-19-2005, 04:51 PM
Been there before, it sucks.

JonFoucart
10-19-2005, 05:21 PM
always try and get the tour managers number so if there;s a problem, you can call and get them to fix it.

Billy
10-19-2005, 05:37 PM
always try and get the tour managers number so if there;s a problem, you can call and get them to fix it.
exactly or if the band isn't there at the specified time

Chris Conlan
10-19-2005, 05:50 PM
But then sometimes you get the tour manager who has no clue who you are. Brand New's manager accused me of lying, etc. I had an email, phone #, and everything to prove I was on the guest list.

brent white
10-19-2005, 06:01 PM
rick, this "article" will not please they alantic ppl if they visit the site.

rmgebhardt
10-19-2005, 06:22 PM
rick, this "article" will not please they alantic ppl if they visit the site.
That's the point.

josh.hofer
10-19-2005, 06:53 PM
WOW.

Best show review ever?
Yeah, pretty much.



That really sucks, id like to hear what Atlanic is going to have to say about this little piece, heh.

sir mix-a-lot
10-19-2005, 07:14 PM
worth it.

Kazy
10-19-2005, 07:32 PM
That really sucks, id like to hear what Atlanic is going to have to say about this little piece, heh.
An apology would be nice since Decoy Music helps break and promote their new artists.

JohnnyL
10-19-2005, 07:39 PM
We really do a lot for that whole company...not just Atlantic but the whole umbrella.

jonmazza
10-19-2005, 07:48 PM
That review was pure gold lol

jared
10-19-2005, 08:04 PM
The worst part is showing up, telling the bouncer you're on the guest list and then you're not and you look like a total shithead.

For me it’s no big deal. I was already downtown for work and I had to pay for parking anyway. Rick, on the other hand, had to drive 150 miles right after work. Pay for a meal on the road, gas, parking. Not to mention he pretty much wasted his night.

Mitch Nickelson
10-19-2005, 08:09 PM
Very funny stuff. It sucks you wasted an evening and a ton of gas money on a concert that didn't happen for you, but your review was very humorous.

yermaum
10-19-2005, 08:50 PM
That is my new favorite Rick picture ever. Not that I had an old favorite, but that pretty much sums things up for me.. Love it Rick!

tim
10-19-2005, 10:05 PM
that's happened to me twice. the first was with .. oh wait, both of them were thanks to ADRENALINE PR!! maria ferraro or whatever the fuck her name is, their head PR person, consistently fucks up everything she gets her hands on. like after saying twenty times that it wasn't adam going to a lamb of god show since he's in virginia and the show is in nj, she still thought it'd be a good idea to put adam down. i ended up having to interview lamb of god next to a dumpster with no preparation. the next one was sounds of the underground, where they revoked my +1 pass because they overbooked. no way in fuck i'm going to a shuttle-based show with thousands of people by myself. oh yea.

Chris Conlan
10-20-2005, 07:50 AM
Main reason I never go to shows that are more than an hour away. I get asked all the time to head to shows in Chicago, Des Moines, and Milwaukee, but I'm not taking the risk knowning how shit can get fucked. Sometimes it isn't the PR's fault. I've had times where the band/manager had my name but never put it down.

I went to film The Bled one time and I wasn't on the list. Luckily I found the singer and mentioned who I was and he apologized since he totally forgot to put me down.

You ever want to meet someone who won't forget your name, Matt from Rx Bandits.

JohnnyL
10-20-2005, 08:57 AM
I've been left off the list one two or three occassions, I believe all by The Militia Group. The last time I was trying to go see Copeland's tour last spring, I printed out the confirmation email from the label's PR people and yet, I wasn't on the list. I tried showing the people the letter I got from TMG, but since I wasn't on the list, it was no dice. If it happens tomorrow (i'm going to see Nightmare of You) I'm going to give up.

JoshTabia
10-20-2005, 10:23 AM
great article rick, i had the same thing happen to me a few years ago when vision of disorder toured with nothingface.

aaron
10-20-2005, 11:07 AM
by far one of the best writeups I have ever read on this site. I hope you emailed Atlantic to let them know you covered the show and, please, please post their reply.. ask them what they think of it.

detuned
10-20-2005, 11:38 AM
haha

brent white
10-20-2005, 11:56 AM
there's been plenty of times where i was suppose to be guest listed and i wasn't. so what? shit happens. we're not getting paid to do this. we dont have a deadline to work against. we as the staff should feel privileged when a major music corporation like atlantic even thinks about hooking us up - even if we're giving this band free press... blaming one person's mistake as the entire company's mistake is the equivalent of me writing that nasty review of Cave-In's last album, and some asshole PR guy emailing you Rick and saying they'll discontinue sending you Press kits. one persons opinion, or in this case, one persons mistake, does not encapsulate how a company works - or in my case a websites integrity.

rmgebhardt
10-20-2005, 12:30 PM
The reason this is a big deal is that I spent probably $30 on gas to get to and from the show as well as wasted hours in drive time. If Cave In personally wasted hours of your life and your money, promising you something you didn't get, then I have no problem with you bitchin'. There's a difference between getting hosed in this manner and you not liking a cd. I'm not trying to say one of us is better than the other, I'm just saying that the two situations are totally different. If Atlantic stops sending me press kits, I don't give a fuck. I don't plan on covering their shit any more anyways.

sir mix-a-lot
10-20-2005, 06:01 PM
plus we have been threatened numerous times with revocation of press kit privileges based on reviews. i've had two of my works removed from this site for that exact reason.

the weirdest part of that was that they were both albums that no one who comes here would have purchased anyway, unless they'd already made their minds up, and they were both blockbuster albums. they were already getting plenty of press, yet somehow my review on some tiny-ass site is so inflammatory that they felt it would be damaging. ridiculous.

thousandjulys
10-20-2005, 06:22 PM
plus we have been threatened numerous times with revocation of press kit privileges based on reviews. i've had two of my works removed from this site for that exact reason.

the weirdest part of that was that they were both albums that no one who comes here would have purchased anyway, unless they'd already made their minds up, and they were both blockbuster albums. they were already getting plenty of press, yet somehow my review on some tiny-ass site is so inflammatory that they felt it would be damaging. ridiculous.
yeah, and don't forget about that time you gave dredg a good review only because it was 'dredg day'. haha i just felt like getting you riled up again over that.

brent white
10-20-2005, 06:28 PM
we need another dredg day at decoy.

sir mix-a-lot
10-20-2005, 07:19 PM
yeah, and don't forget about that time you gave dredg a good review only because it was 'dredg day'. haha i just felt like getting you riled up again over that.
and you did. i didn't even give it a good review. i gave it a lower score than anyone on this site (aside from tim, whose score reflected mine). and i still stand by it. i was neither too harsh nor too kind, i don't think.

and my closing line was classy. it's also the only one you can still comment on, by the way.

what we REALLY need is DeVotchKa Day at Decoy.

Chris Conlan
10-20-2005, 09:37 PM
Anyone here ever feel like you got hosed by a band? You did a bunch of promotion for them and got NO appreciation for it?

Word to all those unsigned acts out there. When a publication will give you press, be fucking grateful. Don't think you automatically deserve it.

ChaosResolved
10-20-2005, 10:09 PM
and you did. i didn't even give it a good review. i gave it a lower score than anyone on this site (aside from tim, whose score reflected mine). and i still stand by it. i was neither too harsh nor too kind, i don't think.

and my closing line was classy. it's also the only one you can still comment on, by the way.

what we REALLY need is DeVotchKa Day at Decoy.

I thought it was a pretty good review. The whole dredg day thing was rediculous to begin with. Too bad I wasn't around to give it a good pop.

aaron
10-20-2005, 10:10 PM
amen to that.. i know whom you're talking about Chris.. sucks but it happens I guess. Some people just dont understand how much you do for them because it cant be measured in means that they can understand or comprehend. if you didnt do any work for them at all im sure they may see more of a difference but instead a lot of times they take things for granted. we all know.. cuz its the unsaid stuff that just gets done that they dont even know about kind of thing because you get it handled.

ChaosResolved
10-20-2005, 10:11 PM
Anyone here ever feel like you got hosed by a band? You did a bunch of promotion for them and got NO appreciation for it?

Word to all those unsigned acts out there. When a publication will give you press, be fucking grateful. Don't think you automatically deserve it.

Can't say I have...I work almost exclusively with unsigned/unknown acts and they always get back to me on emails and what not. Maybe they just don't like you :)

sir mix-a-lot
10-21-2005, 12:12 AM
i honestly don't think i do much for a band. i think there might be three bands out there that, on future cds, will name me in the thank yous if they put them on there. seriously. three. two of them, i've emailed labels about, because i think they have a future. the other just seems to be genuinely thankful that i didn't bother to write them off as a radiohead rip-off. because they aren't. apparently, i was the first person to not say "if you like radiohead, you like...blah blah blah."

Chris Conlan
10-21-2005, 06:11 AM
Chaos, I work as well with many unsigned acts, but I have found some very arrogant ones that won't even respond to a simple email or MySpace message. One band I messaged to receive their CD told me I had to BUY it. I couldn't even respond to their message. Great way to promote yourself to the press.

Kazy
10-21-2005, 06:52 AM
I thought it was a pretty good review. The whole dredg day thing was rediculous to begin with. Too bad I wasn't around to give it a good pop.
It gave Decoy the funds to do more things. It wasn't too ridiculous, business wise. There was one pop-up ad and a bunch of reviews- is that really reason enough to shit the bed?

detuned
10-21-2005, 07:17 AM
we need another dredg day at decoy.
yeah, no we dont

Chris Conlan
10-21-2005, 08:16 AM
It gave Decoy the funds to do more things. It wasn't too ridiculous, business wise. There was one pop-up ad and a bunch of reviews- is that really reason enough to shit the bed?

Money = Whores
Whores = Good

rustycage
11-13-2005, 10:04 AM
Nice review, too bad I ACTUALLY like Taproot, you'd be surprised to see how things get done where I live, you have to ask the fucking promoters if they will let you in, the label won't give a fuck if you got in or not. Of course, they will keep complaining why they only sold 4 thousand copies of their "blockbuster act" in the region. Last week I couldn't get access to 2 shows, one was Paul Oakenfold and the other one was Paul Van Dyk, simply because the guys who booked them "aren't wasting their press passes on some crappy webzine"... trance is for idiots anyway.