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ChaosResolved
06-13-2006, 11:48 AM
The Aesthetics of Critiquing Music, and the Dilemma Facing the Online Music Community.

The Internet is now ubiquitous. It’s changed media, how we’re exposed to media and how we digest what we’re exposed to. And because the Internet is everywhere and virtually anyone with a modem can connect to the Web and share his or her thoughts on any subject, the line of who is and who isn’t a media person, be them a journalist or critic, has become blurred. In fact, in the realm of indie-media, or DIY media (like webzines), I would argue no clear line even exists outlining who is and isn’t a media person.

This is troublesome and unsettling. This means that unqualified, unskilled people are exposing you to media and/or opinions without the proper training and, often, without the proper knowledge. In the news business, that’s flat-out frightening because that form of media, news, operates as the framework for people in our society (people who actually give a damn and pay attention to political and social issues) to formulate their opinions on civic and societal issues, and it also influences a person’s personal politics. One could argue, however, that digital, DIY media tends to be closer to the truth (if there is such a thing and if such a thing is even attainable) because it’s unrestrained from the bottom-line seeking media corporations who are careful about watching their asses, and adhere diligently to censorship and agenda setting.

But, that’s a topic too heavy for this article. I would instead like to focus on something more apparent and relevant to the website you’re reading this article on. But it is, though, an issue that’s directly related to this saturation in media. It’s something that concerns me because I’m active in it, and concerns you because you’re reading this on a music website. It’s also a direct result from this aforementioned saturation in online media: This issue is bad music writing.

Over the past few years, I’ve noticed a slew of music writers emerging with keyboard in-hand who are, frankly, unskilled in writing about music. A lot of the writing is so bad, I question whether many of these critics have ever read music criticism before, aside from the occasional thumbing through of quasi-music mags like Spin, Alternative Press or Rolling Stone. Few, it seems, write within the framework that’s been constructed and established over the years by music critics (like Paul Williams, Dave Fricke, Jim DeRogatis and Lester Bangs). Many seem to be writing blindly, without a roadmap.

It would be unfair and out of character of me to name names and point fingers, but I can’t refrain from blowing the whistle on this issue which is eroding music writing today (especially online music writing), allowing a lot bad music to fly under the radar (another form of saturation), and, perhaps most importantly, robbing readers of educated, stylish and informative critical assessments – because that’s really the objective of music criticism: to inform and influence.

To rebound off my last idea of robbing readers of informative analyses: Writing, like most endeavors, is a skill that’s developed with practice (writing a TON, and I would argue writing for years before you even think of publishing), having the right influences (in this case reading good writing; more on that later) and developing the right tools (grammar, style, proper sentence and word structuring, etc).

Now, a lot of online music criticism today reads like shit because it’s either A) heavily clichéd, B) too wordy, or C) not thought out and not written well. Because of the popularity of DIY music webzines, I find the first case to be more prevalent than the others. What’s clichéd? “So-and-so’s heavy and distorted guitar fits so utterly and absolutely perfect with so-and-so’s screaming. The chorus of the song is dreamy and atmospheric.” First of all, 99 percent of rock music today is distorted. So, stating the obvious is pointless unless the obvious is unconventional or unique. And cliché writing is perhaps the worst kind of writing there is. It’s like having sex just in the missionary position, or reading a sappy love poem. The only way to rid this tendency is to read good writing, write, and rewrite (as many times as necessary), then edit, and edit, and edit, over and over and over.

Second, how do those former example sentences hold any significance and allow a reader to gain any knowledge about the music being critiqued? They don’t. One of the keys to writing a good critique – and, really, to writing good journalism – is to show and not tell. When I write, I like to think I’m writing (then reading) to a group of eighth graders who all possess a keen interest in hearing blunt vulgarity, and know nothing about the music in question. And third, and this is a grammar thing, avoid adverbs. They’re weak, sound bad and often create word clutter. Words like: “Absolutely,” “utterly,” “completely,” “totally.” Nearly (I know, not heeding my own advice) all words with an “ly” ending are an adverb. Avoid them.

Another side of bad music writing today is wordy, lengthy reviews that read like fucking short stories with the writer flexing his or her “vast” vocabulary muscle. Nine times out of ten, this type of literary turgidity ends up triumphing actual critical content. Most of us are familiar with Pitchforkmedia.com. When was the last time you read one of their reviews and didn’t find yourself drowning in an abyss of wanna-be incendiary drivel, ending up lost in a puzzle of “what-the-fuck?” A friend of mine recently told me one of their writers writes his reviews around the idea that he’s listening to the music while in his underwear flying solo over Brazil. Creative, but how does that begin to offer readers an honest, crisp and clear critique? Gimmicks like that shouldn’t obstruct the goal of critical honesty. Lengthy and wordy reviews can be good, but accomplish nothing if the writer doesn’t eventually get to the point.

That said, some of the best music criticism I read offline is found in the back of music magazines (like Kerrang!) where writers are forced to summarize a critique in eight or nine sentences. Every word matters in those kinds of reviews, and sometimes I appreciate that style more because, often, it’s harder to write shorthanded, and even harder to write something with substance under that format. With shorthanded music criticism, the point is often clearer and is often achieved without either party (writer or reader) getting lost in elaboration.

And finally, when reviews are not thought out and written poorly: When I read this type of writing it’s like listening to a novice guitar player make an attempt at playing a difficult Slayer riff. I cringe. Thus, just because one knows how to write doesn’t mean one can write well. This brings me to an interesting paradigm between musicians and critics: Music, it seems, is full of talented slackers who know they’re talented but slack anyway, and the realm of music writing is full of ambitious writers who possess little talent. Yet there’s passion for music in much of the music writing I read today, and, of course, this is a good thing. That’s where it all begins. My main qualm with this dilemma, however, is the lack of passion that exists with writing well. If only the two held equal weight with today’s music critics. The way I look at it, this is what makes a good critic: achieving a balance of being passionate about the subject, knowing how to write well, and maintaining the perspective of a fan. When this balance is achieved, real criticism is born.

I hope this article doesn’t come off as pretentious and uncouth, but, again, it’s an issue in the music media world that must be addressed and, hopefully, remedied. My goal here isn’t to mouth-off on this topic presumptuously, and make it appear that I somehow know everything there is to know about music writing, and about being a good critic. Admittedly, I know little. I’m still learning. But I know what I know from the best, and cannot recommend the following books enough to anyone who’s seriously interested in writing about music: Let it Blurt : The Life and Times of Lester Bangs, America's Greatest Rock Critic by Jim DeRogatis; Main Lines, Blood Feasts, and Bad Taste : A Lester Bangs Reader by Lester Bangs and John Morthlanand; We Rock So You Don't Have to: The Option Reader#1 by Scott Becker; Not Fade Away: A Backstage Pass to 20 Years of Rock & Roll by Ben Fong-Torres; and The Crawdaddy! Book: Writings (and Images) from the Magazine of Rock by Paul Williams.

Criticism can be, and often is, a powerful thing. The opportunity to influence opinion, influence the industry, expose shitty music and praise good music is a task that cannot be taken lightly. I think it should be taken seriously. And being passionate about music is the only place to start. But being passionate about writing, and reading good writing, is the only way to write anything worth reading.


--Brent Steven White

ChaosResolved
06-13-2006, 11:49 AM
I have some thoughts on this, but I have a meeting with a professor, so I'll have to post them later.

doubleDriven05
06-13-2006, 11:58 AM
Wow, great opinion piece (though I guess it's less opinion and more fact that there is a lack of great writing in the world, myself included in the lacking department).

Kamran
06-13-2006, 12:45 PM
"Yet there’s passion for music in much of the music writing I read today, and, of course, is a good thing. That’s where it all begins. My main qualm with this dilemma, however, is the lack of passion that exists with writing well."

this was your best point. sure, we all love music - who doesn't? but not all of the writers here love writing the same way.

good piece.

Jayme Barkdoll
06-13-2006, 12:50 PM
"Yet there’s passion for music in much of the music writing I read today, and, of course, is a good thing. That’s where it all begins. My main qualm with this dilemma, however, is the lack of passion that exists with writing well."

agreed.

Amazingthemike
06-13-2006, 01:04 PM
Let it Blurt : The Life and Times of Lester Bangs. This is a great book, I endorse it.

jared
06-13-2006, 02:26 PM
Brent I agree with you on this topic, but you have to have some understanding. Many of these writers never had a thought about writing professionally. They haven't gone to school for this. They just want to be a part of something.

I think a little less formal writing style is a part of the culture of a site like ours. For the most part people know what to expect from DIY writing. The thing you have to remember is we're not a major print magazine and I don't think that's what we're trying to be.

The point is, your opinion is duely noted, but realistically, we're probably not ever going to be a group of insanely talented and experienced writers. It's fine if you want to hold yourself up to jounalistic standards and I think there's a place for that here. On the flip side, I wouldn't want to see the zany stuff that the immortal Ben Rice hatches in his brain come to an end.

music soup
06-13-2006, 03:06 PM
this is just a reaction to your first paragraph.

one cannot be a self-proclaimed "media person." one must actually have a job in one of the various mediums and get paid to be considered a "media person" by anyone within the actual media. and then you have to look at what sort of media job this person has. working at tower records isn't a media job, neither is working at blockbuster. otherwise, it's just an opinion from some random person on the internet posting on a blog or webzine. which isn't a bad thing at all, don't get me wrong. but it's on our shoulders to descern opinion from fact, and quality writing from cliched jumbled nonsense.

i will post more later, but that's what i had to say for now.

sir mix-a-lot
06-13-2006, 05:40 PM
surprisingly free of typical brent steven white typos and other grammatical errors. nicely done, good read.

***EDIT***
and to jared, i don't think i've written a "zany" review in about a year.

daganjatribe
06-13-2006, 05:47 PM
i too agree with your main point, but the article does make you come off as pretensious seeing as this is not a major publication but a DIY webzine. im glad decoy has good writers like you, and i can tell your writing career will only take off from here, but i always felt like this site was less about the actual reviews and more about people conversating about the music. and honestly there are only a few writers whos reviews i actually read. normally i just peruse the RIYL's and comments then check out the artists music itself to form an opinion. but kudos on this article because i do indeed enjoy your writing

Kamran
06-13-2006, 05:47 PM
your tarantula ad one was rather zany

yermaum
06-13-2006, 06:03 PM
but i always felt like this site was less about the actual reviews and more about people conversating about the music.

I'm glad that we have quite a bit of conversating going on around here! ;) Hehehe. Ok, it is at least a good thing to see people responding to this article that Brent has given us!

music soup
06-13-2006, 06:08 PM
i think we all know what he meant...i hope.

mcbrady
06-14-2006, 05:38 AM
Two points:

The arguement relating music criticism to ontology, semantics and syntax cohesion is undoubtedly flawed. Creative writing, I find, is perfectly acceptable in this genus as long as the piece is suitably engaging; how it is written, structurally speaking, is therefore irrelevant.

Secondly, I find it hard believe that Lester Bangs ever wrote to a framework. The fact that he didn't have a "roadmap" made his writing all the more palpable.

Anyway, im in a rush, so more later. Its an intersting discussion, good job.

ChaosResolved
06-14-2006, 07:38 AM
Something I'd like to point out is the (perhaps obvious) difference in the use of online media vs actual, physical media. What do I mean by that?

A consumer buys a magazine for the purpose of reading it, assuming it's not filled with awesome giveaways and naked pictures of ladies. This is important on two levels. First because there is a transaction of money, you are actually paying for good writing, and not the kid next's door opinion of "kool tunez". Secondly, this exchange of goods also ensures that the consumer will actually read part of the magazine, otherwise its a wasted purchase. Why buy something you won't use?

I'm sure I don't need to tell you about the statistics of online magazines. It's baffling how little people spend on a review/article. I don't know decoy's specifics (maybe aaron or jared does), but I've been at sites where the average time spent reading a review by a user was less than a minute and people spent considerably more time looking at the news. I won't be the first to tell you that you can't read a review in less than a minute and really grasp anything the author says (and that's just the average -- in fact it means to read a review properly it probably takes you about five minutes at least, which means most people are probably clikcing out of the review in about 20 secs or less).

The conclusion one could make from this is that online webzines are here just as a means of providing users with new music, and not really insight or analysis. We pass along news, which is appreciated, but as far as reviews and articles go, most people dont' care about it any more than looking at the RIYL or the bolded references.

And with all of this in mind, assuming that you are a talented writer, doesn't it almost seem wasteful to write to the best of your ability when the majority of your readers will just ignore it anyway?

music soup
06-14-2006, 09:36 AM
{ And with all of this in mind, assuming that you are a talented writer, doesn't it almost seem wasteful to write to the best of your ability when the majority of your readers will just ignore it anyway? }

the same could be said for the musician who writes a song nobody listens to, or a film maker who makes a movie nobody watches, or the painter who just finished his masterpiece but can't get it shown in a gallery. do you just give up? i hope not.

the thing that sucks is that people can always stop reading or stop listening or stop watching or change the channel. that's just something we have to learn to deal with. we have to focus more on those who pay attention more than those who don't.

and here's a thought. in the listening stations, we have to keep our thoughts brief and to the point. if we can convince someone to listen to an album in 10 sentences or less, what's the purpose of a 4 page review? with that said, one won't be able to pass most college courses without being able to write a lengthy paper full of examples and quoting from sources. so, it's good to have both. people who write cause they love to write, and people who write cause they simply want to share new music. nothing wrong with that.

ChaosResolved
06-14-2006, 11:11 AM
{ And with all of this in mind, assuming that you are a talented writer, doesn't it almost seem wasteful to write to the best of your ability when the majority of your readers will just ignore it anyway? }

the same could be said for the musician who writes a song nobody listens to, or a film maker who makes a movie nobody watches, or the painter who just finished his masterpiece but can't get it shown in a gallery. do you just give up? i hope not.


Well, I guess my point is that if you are a musician or an artist or a film maker that people aren't just using your art as a means to an end. As an internet writer, statistically speaking, people don't really care what you have to say, they just want a link to a myspace page.

music soup
06-14-2006, 11:31 AM
it's sad man. lots of people are bored with their lives and all they really want are a means to an end. they need an escape, be it film, music, tv, drugs, sex, sports, whatever. it sucks that shit has to be that way.

also, people like to read reviews and articles, sure, but in the end, they want to listen to the music and make up their own minds. they want to watch the movie, rather than taking ebert's word as gold. they want to experience things for themselves, rather than read about it in a magazine -- to an extent. so, yes, in the end, a link to the band's myspace page will probably get more accomplished than writing a 4 page review, just cause people want to read something like, "so these guys sound like ... and ... and they kick ass! Check out their page here ..."

i guess it's like renting a movie on netflix and then basically writing a thesis on it to post as your review of the movie on netflix's website. true cinephiles will read it and appreciate it, but the average person is looking for something simple. "if you liked ..., then you'll love this movie."

all we're really doing is seperating the cinephile and audiophiles from the average person.

rmgebhardt
06-14-2006, 11:37 AM
Maybe I'm in the minority, at least with film reviews, but I give a lot of stock to reviews. I find a reviewer or site that has similar tastes to me and then use their reviews to help guide how I'll use my free time when it comes to movies. I don't want to waste 2 hours on a movie that 100 critics have said sucks balls just to see for myself if it sucks balls.

ChaosResolved
06-14-2006, 11:39 AM
So my point was that since people aren't really concerned with the writing as much as they are the music/tv/film/art/whatever, then it really relaxes the strictness of writing in general.

You seem to agree that people aren't reading decoymagazine to really read our criticisms, so I don't think any of us are obliged to write ademic papers. This is the point where I disagree with Brent's argument, because I really don't think the writing is important enough to warrant a lot of criticism to make it better.

Sure, there are a lot of writers on the internet who are good and really like what they do, but most of them do suck, he is right about that. I read reviews everywhere that suck, it's not just at Decoy. They suck for different reasons, and I'll even admit I've written stuff that I think sucks too.

Another point which I'm not sure whether or not it has been made is that the vast majority of internet writers are working for free. I'm sure if we were members of rolling stone and were making a living off of this stuff we'd be a bit more careful about our words. Everyone here has real jobs/school/girlfriends/hobbies/etc... and probably reviews are done very rushed and spastic, which is the reason why the quality is reduced.

Now, if you start paying people $10/hr to write reviews, they might start doing better work. A bit tangential I know, but another reason why internet writing will probably never improve.

ian_stride
06-14-2006, 12:02 PM
surprisingly free of typical brent steven white typos and other grammatical errors.

there is at least one word used incorrectly. i didnt feel pedantic enough to pick up on it before though :)

i find a review is good if its fairly honest and fairly balanced. also an idiot trying to sound clever always sounds like an idiot. thats about all i ask for from anything online thats run by people who dont get money for it...

Captain Zapp
06-14-2006, 12:28 PM
There's not a lot I can say that hasn't already been said, but, like Jordan, I think the world of internet reviews is a lot different from that of print reviews. It is far too easy to skim reviews online just to see the rating or RIYL, so I think print reviews certainly have a greater mileage and validity.

That's not to say people who write internet reviews don't care about what they write, or can't write anything decent, far from it.


I agree with your point about it being far too easier to be a 'reviewer', I've read some shockers in the past, and they're definately the sort of people with a passion for music and not for writing. Or maybe it's a case of being a reviewer is 'cool', or simply it's the free gig/cds that attract them.

Although I don't agree with it all, a very enjoyable piece all the same.

klump55
06-14-2006, 12:31 PM
Another side of bad music writing today is wordy, lengthy reviews that read like fucking short stories with the writer flexing his or her “vast” vocabulary muscle. Nine times out of ten, this type of literary turgidity ends up triumphing actual critical content <...> find yourself drowning in an abyss of wanna-be incendiary drivel, ending up lost in a puzzle of “what-the-fuck?” Great point. I was discussing this with a friend just the other night. Amateur music journalism seems to be all about bad poetry and descriptions of MOUNTAIN GOATS MAKING LOVE UNDER A STREAM. What a load of shit. Blatantly, the only person interested in drivel like that is the writer. Which ties in well with the next point, that... as an internet writer, people don't really care what you have to say, they just want a link to a myspace page. Bad would-be poetry has led me to understand this point entirely. Give me the recommendations and comparisons, point me in the direction of good music and I will be on my merry way [THANKS VERY MUCH]. Keep the fucking goats, mate.

None of my opinions towards this are reflective of this site, just of the state of amateur journalism in general.

music soup
06-14-2006, 12:39 PM
so, really then, the issue here is that the internet is kind of a free market. anyone can start a website or a webzine. anyone can start a blog. anyone can write a review regardless of what their educational background is, regardless of how much writing experience they have. so, on the internet, anyone can do anything.

just read some of the album reviews written on the itunes store or on amazon. they're awful, but these are just regular people voicing their opinions and we shouldn't expect the world from them, just their thoughts.

yes, i take the printed word a tad more seriously, but that's because i know the kind of training and background one has to have to be published in a magazine. does that make anyone on the internet's opinion any less valid? not at all. in fact, i know there are several people who write for decoy who should actually be writing for magazines, and maybe this is just the first step in their writing career. i sure hope so.

Captain Zapp
06-14-2006, 01:52 PM
None of my opinions towards this are reflective of this site, just of the state of amateur journalism in general.

That's the key, amateur. We're not professional on here, or a lot of other zine's, but I think the quality on here is generally quite good, as with drownedinsound.com and selected others.

But having said that, if people want to review without screening or experience, then by all means let them, they'll only get better through practice, and I doubt for one second that people are going to sit writing practice reviews in their room.

cloudscollide
06-14-2006, 03:01 PM
I just try to keep my reviews simple. Using huge complicated words and rediculously long sentences does not look professional to me. It looks like someone is trying to be clever while impressing someone, but you can't even understand what they are really trying to say. I am not even close to a professional at my writing though. Just ask Rick. I have grammer problems gallore. Haha.

And I think everyone writes very solid reviews on DecoyMusic.

Chris Conlan
06-14-2006, 03:46 PM
I consider myself a "simple" writer. I never considered myself an amazing writer. But I think I do a decent enough job when stuff I've written has been used in press releases, print mags, etc. While my reviews are short and too the point, that's what they are, too the point. Which is the reason why I like reading reviews in Alt Press or Decibel. They aren't there to boggle your mind, but there to give you an idea of what to expect. I don't like when someone spells out the whole entire album for me. What each song is like, etc. I want to experience that myself. I don't want someone telling me everything I'm going to be hearing.

cloudscollide
06-14-2006, 05:04 PM
I consider myself a "simple" writer. I never considered myself an amazing writer. But I think I do a decent enough job when stuff I've written has been used in press releases, print mags, etc. While my reviews are short and too the point, that's what they are, too the point. Which is the reason why I like reading reviews in Alt Press or Decibel. They aren't there to boggle your mind, but there to give you an idea of what to expect. I don't like when someone spells out the whole entire album for me. What each song is like, etc. I want to experience that myself. I don't want someone telling me everything I'm going to be hearing.

Exactly. Too the point reviews is what I like. I can't say i've written all of mine like that though...haha.

awake_and_avenge
06-14-2006, 08:54 PM
Um, you guys are using the word "too" incorrectly.

...Yeah, I'm definitely one of those wordy writers. I've been trying to put a muzzle on the verbosity lately, though; simplify and streamline, but don't dumb it down. Some of my past reviews were just me going crazy with big words and shit, and they ended up being fairly indecipherable. Maybe I'd just been reading way too much academic writing for my classes.

Anyway, pretty good article with several interesting points, but the resulting discussion has upstaged it...which was probably what you were going for. Nicely done, Brent.

brent white
06-15-2006, 11:48 PM
well, i appreciate everyone's opinions, input, comments and compliments. thanks for reading it. though i have to say to "captain zapp" i think, in most ways, this is a professional publication. it publishes content; it advertises; it generates revenue; and it's been active for eight years.

maybe you think it's not "professional" because you're not getting paid. or maybe your standards are lower than the people who consider it a professional publication. and really that's what i was trying to achieve with this article: i was hoping it would raise some standards.

klump55
06-16-2006, 10:18 AM
are any of the contributers to this website paid?

genuine question.

aaron
06-16-2006, 10:20 AM
not paid on a monthly or per article basis but people at this publication have received money for their efforts before.

Chris Conlan
06-16-2006, 10:21 AM
Aaron runs a sweatshop with Decoy.

rmgebhardt
06-16-2006, 10:33 AM
Aaron runs a sweatshop with Decoy.
Shhhhh.... don't tell anyone. Last time I did he whipped me with a 12" rubber dildo. No fun. No fun at all. Now get back to work!

jeff the baptist
06-17-2006, 06:02 PM
Sure, there are a lot of writers on the internet who are good and really like what they do, but most of them do suck, he is right about that. I read reviews everywhere that suck, it's not just at Decoy. They suck for different reasons, and I'll even admit I've written stuff that I think sucks too.

enough of this dancing around it....name some names godamnit!!! hah